2008/06/23

ARCHIVES: Interview with Justin Pearson from THE LOCUST 2003

ANOTHER FROM THE DEADWINTER ARCHIVES, AN INTERVIEW WITH JUSTIN PEARSON FROM THE LOCUST ABOUT THEIR THEN NEW RELEASE, PLAGUE SOUNDSCAPES from ANTI- RECORDS.



Ah yes. The ever popular, controversial and gossip-targeted loons the Locust. This band has been consistently working their asses off to create something unique for quite a number of years now, and are probably at a higher level of popularity than ever. I got a chance to bat a few questions over to vocalist/bassist Justin Pearson about the band's new record & label, as well as his viewpoints on the state of music and so forth. It should be made quite clear that despite a sassy & quasi-intimidating stature, Mr. Pearson is a workhorse for his art, kind, and as straightforward as they come. So check it out. And then check out their new record, Plague Soundscapes, if you haven't already.


Blake Butler> ‘Plague Soundscapes’ sounds a lot more refined than anything else you guys have done. By that I mean a lot of the technical aspects of the music that were kind of subverted by synth and noise before are more prominent, and people can really see how intricate your music really is. Is this something you were shooting for when you recorded the album?

Justin Pearson> Well with all of the previous recordings we had a small recording budget and no one to assist us in the recording process. This time, on Anti, we hired Alex Newport to help produce the album and we had a recording budget that actually allowed us to be in a good studio and for more than one or two days like we had done up until "Plague Soundscapes." So this allowed us to take our time and get a better sound as well as more time to mix the album.

BB> How long did it take you guys to write the record? What’s the songwriting process like for you?

JP> It took us about 3 weeks to record. As far as songwriting, it takes us a while to actually be finished with songs. We sort of get parts together and over time it mutates a bit. We add some stuff, take stuff away, just sort of make it less predictable and more fucked up time signatures, tempo changes, etc.

BB> You guys are up there with Don Caballero for having some of the greatest song titles of all time. Are those names picked out for their instant appeal a lot of the time, or do they simply come along with the lyrics?

JP> Well three of us write and sing the words to the music we create. The song titles usually come with the lyrics. I'm sure that they are sometime created before and after the lyrics are added to the music. But for the most part, the titles come with the lyrics.

BB> How well do you think Anti- expects the record to sell?

JP> I'm not sure. I don't think that was really an issue with the label or us. As far as I know, its selling pretty well.

BB> I remember a few years ago when you guys played at Under the Couch in Atlanta some straight-edge kid threw a watermelon and hit you in the head while your back was turned after the show. He said he’d done it because you were supposedly heard saying ‘nigger’ out west, or some equally asinine reasoning for blindsiding someone. How much stuff like that do you get from idiotic kids at shows who are offended by what you’re doing?

JP> Well most of the shenanigans surrounding the band are mostly due to the internet. We played a show in South Carolina. The show was ok, nothing too crazy. But there were a few people there that had issues with us. Not too sure why, nobody ever said anything to us about it. Anyhow, the following morning the internet was fast at work telling everyone how I called some black kid a "nigger" and spit on him. The funny thing is, in that shit hole of a town, everyone was white. Now, I mean white like KKK, red neck bullshit. So anyhow, if anyone with half a brain looked at the bands that I have been in- Struggle, Swing Kids, etc. and looked at the links page from Three One G, a label I run, and saw the list of political organizations that we support, they could figure out that we, or me in specific was not racist. So the whole internet thing triggered a few other incidents, like a huge fight the next night, us getting maced, and the lame watermelon incident. The main thing is, if someone is going to fuck with me, they should at least have the guts to stand up to me and deal with it, instead the chicken shit(s) ran away. I actually like water melon too.

BB> I noticed that you even get that kind of throwback on your website, such as the email calling you “big-headed rock stars.”

JP> Yup. People will see what they want to see.

BB> How important is image to a band like the Locust, who many put aside as a gimmick band despite the obvious ingenuity of the music? I mean obviously you get some use out of it in the presence endowed by wearing costumes on stage and being able to sell crazy merch such as mirrors and belt buckles.

JP> Well you are talking about appearance and merchandise here. So as far as the uniforms we wear, they are more aesthetically appealing then watching 4 normal looking guys play music. Its fitting to what we create as art. Its not really a big deal, who says we need to limit our art to only what people might hear? But in the past we were also pegged with "fashion core" and that we had some sort of "locust look". Those labels were pre-Locust uniforms. So we decided to take it a step farther and embrace irony.

BB> How did you first get into punk?

JP> For me personally it all sort of stemmed from skateboarding. I had stumbled upon all the first Thrasher skate comps and sort of went from there. Also, I lived a few blocks from Slayer in Phoenix and ended up getting into some other punk bands like the Dead Kennedys, Suicidal Tendencies and then a lot of metal due to them.

BB> There are a lot of bands out there these days that are getting sold as “indie” or “punk” or “hardcore” bands that are really just corporate rock in disguise. And the scary but very unsurprising thing is, its working on a lot of people. What do you think about that kind of stuff going on in music today?

JP> Well culture theft has been a part of american culture from day one. So its not that surprising. Obviously its sick, but you just have to re-invent what you have and take it to another level. Its been done before with "no wave" bands after punk became new wave and mass marketed. You had people like James Chance trying to create something that was not viewed traditionally and typically as "punk" but was exactly what punk was meant to be...ethically. I don't consider the Locust's music to be "punk" in a traditional musical sense. We are not a "punk rock" band, but we are ethically punk in my opinion.

BB> Are there any bands that particularly grate your scrotum?

JP> Yes, a lot.

BB> It seems like there is a kind of political edge and/or ideology to the band, but its never presented in a way that’s overly direct, other than through the way you warp standards of music.

JP> You are correct. There is no reason to cram political ideals down peoples throats, its a turn off. We try to present what we feel politically and emotionally in a way that can be dealt with however one wants to ingest it.

BB> How do you guys manage to get so much done through the Locust while all of the members are involved in such a wide variety of other projects? Do conflicts ever become a problem?

JP> Being a workaholic is the way I can accomplish all that I do.

BB> What other musicians and/or experiences influence the Locust’s sound?

JP> I'm not sure where to start. It's not only musical influences that help us create what we do. For me its things like my mother, independent cinema, dadaism, radical political activism, food, communication, community, culture and so on. But as far as musical influences, some are the Birthday Party, Public Image Limited, the Stooges, Black Sabbath, Leonard Cohen, yes, the Sex Pistols, Born Against, and so on...

BB> A lot of your lyrics are very literary and abstract, in an effective way that most lyricists can’t capture quite so well. Are there any writers that inspire and/or influence you to create them as you do?

JP> Well Joey, Bobby and I all write lyrics. As far as the stuff I write, I try to use a lot of slang, a lot of sexual references. Ii tend to use re-occurring things that are used as metaphors. But I'm not really influenced by other writers. As far as influence, its the same as the musical influences question above.

BB> There are supposedly a lot of rumors about the band’s drug use. How much influence has drug use had on the Locust’s music? Is that even important?

JP> It's not important to me since I haven't done drugs since I was 14.

BB> How can you become a virgin?

JP> Well the title for that song came from the way my father was towards me. It's sort of like being born a specific way, having a personality and characteristics that will never be approved in the eyes of someone, in this case, a parent. So the idea of a virgin is thought to be pure and good. Well to become a virgin when you are not is the irony of the idea that i was trying to convey.

2008/06/21

NEW YORK TYRANT 5 Release Party NYC

Release party for Lady Tyrant
(The all-women issue of the New York Tyrant)

Saturday, June 28th, 9 pm
Bar Nine
807 Ninth Avenue, between 53rd and 54th Streets



A $10 cover includes a copy of the latest issue, featuring work from:
S.G. Miller, Cezarija Abartis, Leni Zumas, Paula Bomer, Jessica Anya Blau, Nadxieli Mannello, Rachel B. Glaser, Elizabeth Koch, Leigh Newman, Deb Olin Unferth, Erin Pringle, Eva Talmadge, Sheila Heti, Rachel Sherman & Joan Reilly, Dawn Raffel, Sandra Newman, and Kim Chinquee, among others.

10 pm: Lucy Wainwright Roche
Lucy Wainwright Roche grew up in Greenwich Village, New York City. She is the daughter of two performing musicians, Loudon Wainwright and Suzzy Roche (The Roches). Her childhood was spent living out of a suitcase, either on the road, with her parents or being ferried around to different relatives in her big musical clan. Described by The New York Times as having the best qualities of both her parents and a voice “clear as a bell”, Lucy is a refreshing, pure, alternative to the jive pop culture, alarmingly straightforward and unadorned. In the past year Lucy has toured the US doing solo shows and opening for many musicians from Dar Williams to her brother Rufus. In 2007 Lucy released her first recording, an EP entitled "8 Songs", and in the spring of 2008 she released her second EP, "8 More".
www.myspace.com/lwrlwr

11 pm: The Choke
NYC’s punk ‘n’ roll darlings The Choke filter the influences of 60s Motown, soul, and garage rock through the attack of 70s anthemic punk. Since its debut in May of 2005, the band has already performed for large audiences throughout New York and London, toured with the UK’s legendary Buzzcocks, enjoyed regular rotation and performed a live set on WFMU 91.1 FM (NYC/NJ), performed for a special NYC Animal Rescue Benefit opening for The Beastie Boys, completed 2 UK Tours, and also 2 US tours of the Midwest. Punk Magazine has called them “One of the most explosive and original acts to hit these parts in years”. The Choke is currently in the midst of finishing a full-length album with producer Tony Barber (bass player/producer of Buzzcocks).
www.the-choke.com

A portion of the proceeds will be donated to Girls Write Now:
GWN provides at-risk New York City high school girls with emerging writing talent an opportunity to be custom-matched with a professional woman writer who serves as her personal mentor and writing coach, meeting with her weekly for the duration of an entire school year, and for up to four years. Founded in 1998, GWN was the first organization to ever present this combination of powerful services, and it continues to be the only program of its kind in the eastern United States.
www.girlswritenow.org


We believe in the power and urgency of the story and the story's ability to describe and illuminate the interior and exterior landscape: we believe in the power of narrative and its ability to make life more astonishingly alive.
www.nytyrant.com

2008/06/20

HOTBOOKS

A new book reviews blog, featuring brief reviews of folks like Steve Erickson, Kim Chinquee, Robert Lopez, Calamari Press, Elimae, Brandon Hobson and so on is now running live at HOTBOOKS.

2008/06/16

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2008/06/14

WAFFO Clothing

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2008/06/13

ARCHIVES: Mike Patton Interview 11/15/2001

FROM THE DEADWINTER ARCHIVES: INTERVIEW WITH MIKE PATTON DURING THE FIRST TOMAHAWK TOUR IN 2001 in Carrboro, North Carolina


November had Tomahawk pulling into Athens, a mere one hour drive from my home, in which I would get to watch the newest musical phenomenon of one of my favorite musicians ever in action. Meeting every expectation, Tomahawk were as incredible live as I had hoped, despite two annoying hippie girls who wouldn't shut up through most of the set. After the show, I talked briefly to Mike as he took down the insane setup he had rigged for his vocal effects and keyboards. Asking for an interview, he said he had already promised one to someone else, so he probably would not have time. I mentioned that I was planning on driving up to Chapel Hill the next day to see them again, and he gladly said he'd do the interview then.

Because of my bad luck, I got into a 4 hr standstill traffic jam in Tennesse, and missed all of their set except for two songs of the encore. But once again, after the show, Mike was completely kind and willing to talk to me, amidst the sea of autograph hungry, drooling fans in his wake.

Despite things I had heard, Mike was completely friendly, warm even, and totally went out of his way to make sure we had time to talk. So... here is my conversation with one of the great musical visionaries of our time. I get dumbmouthed and awkward, as usual.






Deadwinter: I guess I'll start with the lyrics to Tomahawk… is there like…
MP: Bad question.
Deadwinter: (smiling) Bad question?
MP: I wrote a bunch of stuff that really sounded good and that was direct, to the point, stripped down, and even at times somewhat meaningless.
Deadwinter: So no common element, just like a…
MP: Not really, no. I mean, you know… each song, I think, is different and kinda neat on its own.
Deadwinter: I like them… they're really spooky, but forceful at the same time..
MP: Thanks! Yeah… I wanted to make them real… yeah, they’re usually kind of… I don’t know. I hate writing lyrics to be honest with you, and I don’t think I’m very good at it. I have always written real indirect, kind of metaphorical garbage. And I wanted with this project to really write something just ‘Gshee, Gshee‘, slicing to the bone. Even though it might not make a lot of sense. I wanted to write really tough sounding… kind of like a hatchet on metal, kinda…
Deadwinter: Is that why you do a lot of stuff with noises instead of words, like on the first Fantomas album?
MP: Ah, yeah, well that was more of a musical question, I didn‘t think there was room or need for it in the music. That stuff is so layered and complicated and fast moving that words would be nothing but a distraction.
Deadwinter: I heard you guys did a performance with Kenneth Anger films…
MP: Yeah, we did, on Halloween.
Deadwinter: Are you a big Kenneth Anger fan?
MP: Very much so…
Deadwinter: The imagery that he creates seems to be the perfect match for your music I thought.
MP: It was great, really fun. We got asked to do it, it was a benefit for him to make a new movie. I’m not the most benefit friendly sort of guy. In fact that was the first one I’ve ever done in my life. I couldn’t have been more happy, it was so fuckin’ great. We played to ‘Lucifer Rising’ and a bunch of other movies and it was very, very cool.
Deadwinter: That is cool.
MP: Yeah, had a blast. Met him, very nice guy, raised a bunch of money for him.
Deadwinter: I didn’t even know he was still making films.
MP: Neither did I, neither did I. He’s very old, and he’s probably not going to be around so much longer. So if I can contribute in some way to him doing more I’ll die happier.
Deadwinter: You’re a big movie buff I hear.
MP: I am. I like movies.
Deadwinter: So what are some of your favorite movies?
MP: It depends. I watch movies a lot. I try to watch a movie or two a day, you know? When I’m on the road it’s a little tougher, but I just got a portable DVD player so I’m getting better at that. When I’m home I watch lots of movies. What have I seen lately, like in theaters? Like new movies?
Deadwinter: Just anything, do you like going to theaters anymore?
MP: Oh yeah, sure, I always go. A lot of crap, but… I thought Ghost World was kind of OK, just cause I know those comics and I thought it was… uh, uh, uh… smart-ass enough, I thought it captured that feeling pretty well. What else? Mmm, grrr. I didn’t see any others that really blew my head off.
Deadwinter: What about just a favorite movie that you would have overall?
MP: (shakes his head)
Deadwinter: You couldn’t say?
MP: Millions. There’s not like one that defines everything, you know? It depends, there’s like French noirs, Chinese Hong Kong shit, or….
Deadwinter: Do you like Harmony Korine at all?
MP: Yeah, yeah. He’s ok. I thought ‘Gummo’ was ok. Didn’t kill me. But… let me think about now… I don’t know, I saw a recent Japanese movie that I thought was good called ‘Brother’, have you seen that?
Deadwinter: Uh-uh.
MP: With B. Takeshi, he’s kind of a famous Japanese actor. ‘Violent Cop’ was a real famous movie of his. ‘Brother’ was very good, very good. Uhh, khe khe, uhh, khe khe, uhh. Have you seen ‘In the Company of Men’?
Deadwinter: Yeah, actually…
MP: It came out about five or six years ago. I really liked that, it was great.
Deadwinter: It was good.
MP: Very good. And nobody ever talks about that movie. It’s very untouchable (laughs). I think it’s very cool. What else? Hmm, did you see ‘The Rapture’? About maybe six or seven years ago? A weird, religious, kind of cult movie. It’s very good. A movie called ‘The Lifestyle’ about suburban swingers, a documentary on the suburban swinging scene?
Deadwinter: I heard about that, I think, but I never saw it, any good?
MP: Excellent. Anyway.
Deadwinter: So what’s up with your future projects, you’ve got Mr. Bungle kind of asleep, as you said last night.
MP: Yeah.
Deadwinter: So that’s not going to be happening for a while?
MP: Yeah.
Deadwinter: And then the Fantomas…
MP: We’re putting another record out next year…
Deadwinter: Is that the Melvins/Fantomas big band thing?
MP: Oh no, in addition to that one, that one will be out early next year. That one’s done, finished. We recorded it live.
Deadwinter: What was that like?
MP: We just played live and it was great and a couple of people recorded it. I thought to myself, ‘I hate live recordings but this is a very freakish project that I don’t know will happen ever again, and the recording sounds pretty good.’ And I just kind of let my hair down a little bit and said OK, fine. Cause I’m normally very paranoid and protective of putting out things that may not be "THE HIGHEST QUALITY" or whatever. There’s mistakes on there, I’ll put it that way, glaring. But it’s OK, it’s interesting, it’s a good record. And like I said it’s weird enough and unique enough and special enough that I can kind of just step back and say ‘You know what, this needs to be documented.’
Deadwinter: Ok, Lovage. What was that like, doing that? That was totally like nothing I’ve ever heard you do before, sort of like you as a member of a sexual Portishead or something. I thought it was good though.
MP: Good record, yeah. [Dan The Automator] is a really interesting guy.
Deadwinter: How did you get hooked up with him?
MP: We live in the same city and I have another project that I asked him to help me with…
Deadwinter: Peeping Tom.
MP: Yeah, and he said, "Yeah I’ll do that, but I have this other thing, you want to help me?" And I was like, "Sure!" I knew what to do, and it was very simple. I did it in a couple of days.
Deadwinter: Are you guys ever going to perform?
MP: Yeah I think we’re going to do New Year’s this year in San Francisco That’ll be the premier, should be fun. And we’ll probably tour it, I think it’s good enough and interesting enough that I think it’ll lend itself pretty well to a live show.
Deadwinter: Cool! Ok, well, just one last question to sort of get off of news questions. Do you have a favorite book? Anything like that, do you read a lot?
MP: Right now? (sputters his lips) That’s all I can really say.

At this point a kid, hovering aside in hopes of getting his picture taken with Mike, interjects.

Kid: You’re tri-lingual aren’t you?
MP: Bi.
Kid: Bi? Spanish and English?
MP: Italian.
Kid: ‘Ave Satani’? (referring to the Fantomas cover of the Omen theme song). Isn’t that in…
MP: That’s Latin, but I don’t speak Latin.
Kid: Espagnol is my premiero language.
MP: See, yeah, yeah, I understand Spanish but I don’t speak it very well. I speak Italian.
Kid: Really? Is that your origin?
MP: Nope.
Kid: What are you?
MP: I’m a big mess, man (chuckles). I’m mostly Chinese actually.
Kid: I’m 100% Honduran. My first word was ‘avignon’.
MP: Avignon! Airplane.
Kid: Then my mom married a Marine, moved to the States and I lost it all.
MP: Ehh. You can get it back.
Kid: It sucks though, cause I like get D’s in Spanish class. But I can speak it to the teacher.
MP: Really? That happens. I’d say just go to a place and speak.
Kid: That’s like the best way to learn.
MP: That’s how I learned.
Kid: Somebody told me that your wife doesn’t speak any English.
MP: Yeah, she does. Sure.
Kid: Like totally Italian.
MP: She speaks English. But anyway, sorry man. I’m… (makes whistling sound, motioning that he’s doing an interview).

Deadwinter: So how was the whole experience with Tool?
MP: It was good, yeah. Umm…
Deadwinter: I drove up to see you guys in Charlotte, people were threatening to kick my ass because I was getting all excited, it was kind of weird. A lot of people were booing, but it also seemed like a lot of people who had never heard anything like Fantomas before got exposed to it.
MP: All in all, I think it was a very good thing and I expected MUCH worse. I expected open warfare-- (mocks crowd screaming) "YEAH FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU!". I’ve been in situations like that before and I did it kind of with eyes open, thinking ‘It’s going to be brutal, but let’s do it.’ And it went way better that I thought. They were downright polite.
Deadwinter: Yeah, a lot of them were. But some of them kind of like…
MP: Yeah. But dude, I’ve caught bottles in the face, that was nothing. That was an overwhelming success and I afterwards kind of looked at the numbers and I looked at the record sales. And there was a huge spike, we sold twice as many records during that period. So, you know what? It was totally worth it. And those guys are great guys, treated us like… top-notch. Treated us like kin, you know, it was really great. It was amazing.
Deadwinter: Wow.
MP: And most bands on that level wouldn’t.

The guy from earlier comes back over and interjects again, this time with camera in hand.

Kid: You hate this picture shit.
MP: Do it.
Kid: Thanks man.
Kid 2: Can you sign this?
MP: Sure, but just chill for a minute.

Deadwinter: What is your outlook on drugs?
MP: Do what you gotta do. I’m no one to pass judgment. Personally it doesn’t do a lot for me, but, you know, I‘ve got my own drugs. Everybody does, no matter what they are. Everybody has them.
Deadwinter: Whether they be legal or illegal.
MP: Perfect. You said it. So I would just say, "Hey, figure it out for yourself." No one should be preaching to you about that garbage. Everybody is going to do it, sooner or later, they’re going to do it, no matter what. They’re going to, if they have half a brain, figure it out for themselves. Which is, ‘Hey!’ That’s what life’s about.
Deadwinter: And if not, they’ll end up dead somewhere.
MP: If not, you deserve to fucking die.
Deadwinter: Right. That’s what I say.
MP: Excuse me, but, that’s the truth. Fuck it. Evan Dando can fucking shoot himself, I don’t give a shit, you know? Fuck him. I don’t care about some crying junkie, some junkie crying the blues. You know what? Up the dose, motherfucker. I don’t give a fuck. If you can’t figure it out by now, why should the rest of the world cry? Anyway, that’s my take.
Deadwinter: Are there any musicians out there now that do it for you? Any bands that you would say…
MP: Bands, not too many, no. But a few. I think Melt-Banana are really cool, really great. I like this band Enon, I think they’re kind of interesting.
Deadwinter: That name sounds familiar.
MP: Yeah, yeah, check it out. It’s nice.
Deadwinter: I know you are connected with Dillinger Escape Plan somewhat.
MP: Yeah, man, they’re one of the good ones.
Deadwinter: What’s going to happen with that, do you know if you are going to have time to do their EP?
MP: Oh yeah, I’ll do it. It just may come out a little later. I’ve done a few tracks already and I’ve got to do a few more. Just kind of slipping it into the cracks, cause I’ve got these other things that I’m committed to already. They’re my kind of moonlight gig right now. It’s just a one off collaboration, just a weird sort of thing. I’m not their new singer, I’m not touring with them, I’m not doing any of that crap. Let’s do a weird EP together. Fine I’m down.
Deadwinter: Instrumentally they easily one of the best bands around right now.
MP: Oh, they’re amazing, man. In terms of the scene they come out of. Bsshhh. Top notch, top of list. No doubt about it. Dude, gotta blow.
Deadwinter: Yeah, that’s great, man. Thanks so much for taking your time to talk to me for a bit, it was really a pleasure.
MP: No sweat, man. Take care.

2008/06/11

Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Master